tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post1704496835147487991..comments2024-03-28T05:12:10.477-07:00Comments on Gone Gaming: After being defeated by the rules, the play made it clear...Coldfoothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11636345146138362966noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-9345604250572533692007-11-25T10:22:00.000-08:002007-11-25T10:22:00.000-08:00Caylus! I had no idea how the game was going to be...Caylus! I had no idea how the game was going to be played just from reading the rules.Drunken5yearoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18356177434995713246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-74047586141365463692007-11-23T09:15:00.000-08:002007-11-23T09:15:00.000-08:00Thanks for the tip, Fraser. That makes me feel be...Thanks for the tip, Fraser. That makes me feel better. My husband is an impatient sort, anyway, so I am sure he would prefer to play through a round as we are learning it.Dani In NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15032707452740200776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-10981449590259300322007-11-22T20:52:00.000-08:002007-11-22T20:52:00.000-08:00Just start playing it as you are reading the rules...Just start playing it as you are reading the rules and you will be OK. I just found I didn't understand it from the rules alone.Fraserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09062395288187308895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-21867044394952566482007-11-22T19:21:00.000-08:002007-11-22T19:21:00.000-08:00I did NOT want to hear that Mamma Mia is difficult...I did NOT want to hear that Mamma Mia is difficult to learn, especially as I am waiting for UPS to deliver it to my house :-). Unfortunately, I don't know anyone around here who has experience with these kinds of games so I can't get someone else to teach me. We'll just have to muddle through.Dani In NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15032707452740200776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-48895855510258912722007-11-22T14:52:00.000-08:002007-11-22T14:52:00.000-08:00I find I need to read rules alone, at least the fi...I find I need to read rules alone, at least the <I>first</I> time that I am reading them, so that I can concentrate on them. Well, if they are more complex than <I>Ticket to Ride</I> anyway :-)Fraserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09062395288187308895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-45216720986119017712007-11-21T16:24:00.000-08:002007-11-21T16:24:00.000-08:00I also find it can be a state of mind at the time ...I also find it can be a state of mind at the time the rules are read. Often I have a read a set of rules and left them with no idea what just happened. Then a maybe a day or 2 later I will read them again and "ding", somehow a light goes on and I can never understand what caused me such confusion in the first place. <BR/><BR/>Then there is War of the Ring...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-28869334923261757822007-11-21T02:21:00.000-08:002007-11-21T02:21:00.000-08:00An interesting point Robert. With Tigris & Euphra...An interesting point Robert. With <I>Tigris & Euphrates</I> I found the rules very good <B>after</B> I had been taught, so I think the main failure was not being able to convey the conflicts to somebody who hasn't played the game. Other than that I think of them as a good rules set.<BR/><BR/>With <I>Mamma Mia!</I> and <I>Coloretto</I> I am not sure. In some cases translations are too literal, almost like they have been machine translated and not reworded for the target language.<BR/><BR/><I>Power Grid</I> is a case where the English rules are usable, but they could be re-written to be so much more useful and more easily understood. <I>Coloretto</I> was fine after playing, so it could be the style of the rules. I haven't really rechecked the <I>Mamma Mia!</I> rules after playing, so am not entirely sure what my problem was.<BR/><BR/>Having a fluent German speaker in the house does help, especially with games that come with rules in multiple languages. In our first game of <I>Thebes</I> we were trying to clarify some points in the English rules and couldn't find the answers where we expected them to be. Lo and behold they were exactly where we had expected them to be in the <B>German</B> rules! Some sentences just seemed to get dropped in the translation, I don't know why.Fraserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09062395288187308895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-91274953491726113452007-11-21T00:19:00.000-08:002007-11-21T00:19:00.000-08:00Hmh, three of the games that you mention are origi...Hmh, three of the games that you mention are originally German - any clue whether it was the rules themselves, or rather their translation?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-23954378249501830892007-11-18T14:28:00.000-08:002007-11-18T14:28:00.000-08:00I was saved on teaching myself Mystery Rummy: Jack...I was saved on teaching myself Mystery Rummy: Jack the Ripper by having taught myself Mystery Rummy: Jekyll and Hyde first. The extra complications of JtR, while large, could be handled. But my thoughts as I learned JtR were just that: "Thank goodness I wasn't trying to learn this one first."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-6689347278764866942007-11-17T15:20:00.000-08:002007-11-17T15:20:00.000-08:00You forgot 1.5 - check for clarifications on BGG :...You forgot 1.5 - check for clarifications on BGG :)Melissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12731608339380263848noreply@blogger.com