tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post2134402331795318377..comments2024-03-28T05:12:10.477-07:00Comments on Gone Gaming: Making "Gateway" a Useful TermColdfoothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11636345146138362966noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-76874197315289590602007-10-11T16:35:00.000-07:002007-10-11T16:35:00.000-07:00I like the definition of gateway game that qzhdad ...I like the definition of gateway game that qzhdad gave. I've been using games like Poison and Fluxx to show my friends that there are alternatives to what can be found at Toys R Us. However, in recent months my idea of gateway has moved closer to Boris' definition. My group and I all started out as boardgame newbies together, but I'm the only one interested in moving on to meatier games. So my task is to find games that are engaging for myself but also light enough so that my husband and his friends are willing to play them.Dani In NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15032707452740200776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-9889357988688809892007-10-06T20:24:00.000-07:002007-10-06T20:24:00.000-07:00"a game that both gamers and non-gamers are willin..."a game that both gamers and non-gamers are willing to play." I like this definition.Fraserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09062395288187308895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-25389623968511607622007-10-05T07:41:00.000-07:002007-10-05T07:41:00.000-07:00I like both bridge and gateway terms. They mean d...I like both bridge and gateway terms. They mean different things. Gateway is here is a game that will show a non-gamer that there are games more fun than the roll and move games associated with the term (as commonly used) boardgame. A bridge game is one that I, as a gamer, can enjoy but that my in-laws will play and enjoy. <BR/>The problem with these terms is that it doesn't really depend upon the game, it depends on the people playing the game. Settlers was a gateway for many people who now play other German games, some of them meatier like Puerto Rico. Settlers is also a game that I can enjoy playing with my in-laws, but I don't think any of them will be playing Puerto Rico (or any other similarly complex/meaty game) any time soon.<BR/>So I guess devoid of context, specifically who is sitting around the table, it is unknown whether a game at that time is a gateway or a bridge. It can even be both at the same time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-53224073552001400582007-10-02T09:48:00.000-07:002007-10-02T09:48:00.000-07:00I can agree with Boris' definition of "gateway". ...I can agree with Boris' definition of "gateway". If you extend the analogy, what you find is that there are many people who will approach the gateway, and indeed enter through the gateway, but never stray from it. Rare indeed are those who come to, go through, and run far beyond the gateway, deep in to the land of hobby games.<BR/><BR/>In that sense, "gateway" and "bridge" aren't much different.daw65https://www.blogger.com/profile/10610768091900079363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14856978.post-71560044070846783712007-10-02T00:57:00.000-07:002007-10-02T00:57:00.000-07:00Very thoughtful, and a great writing style too.How...Very thoughtful, and a great writing style too.<BR/><BR/>However, in response to an article that offers an argument on diction, let me offer an argument on diction.<BR/><BR/>I think that "gateway game" is exactly the right term for a game that brings people into the hobby. However, I think there's something to be said for your logic that such a game may indeed not exist.<BR/><BR/>What you're describing instead seems to be a "bridge game" which connects up two different groups of player types.<BR/><BR/>How's that for trying to wield vocabulary to my own usage, with no chance of success?Shannon Appelclinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10454937577535623129noreply@blogger.com